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		<title>By: We saw many progressive victories in 2012. &#171; Sunset Daily</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-20101</link>
		<dc:creator>We saw many progressive victories in 2012. &#171; Sunset Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tell the Republicans: &#8220;Repeal your own health care first, hypocrites!&#8221; &#171; Sunset Daily</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-10908</link>
		<dc:creator>Tell the Republicans: &#8220;Repeal your own health care first, hypocrites!&#8221; &#171; Sunset Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lute</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-9344</link>
		<dc:creator>Lute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It astounds me that Republican are so misinformed that they elect cretins, science deniers and proven liars to high office. These pols should never have been let out of the asylum nor allowed to reproduce, much less get their hands on elected office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It astounds me that Republican are so misinformed that they elect cretins, science deniers and proven liars to high office. These pols should never have been let out of the asylum nor allowed to reproduce, much less get their hands on elected office.</p>
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		<title>By: David Cayford</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-9319</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cayford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes,Boenher is in a difficult position,but Has&#039;nt he made enough money by now,so that he should not worry for the future of his Family,,so why can&#039;t he just do the right thing and side with the American People rather than those Vulture Capitalists,,he could remake his place in History and become a Champion of the people..does he realize this?Rather than being a cog in the wheel of injustice,he could change,,i believe that anyone can change..keep hope alive keep hope alive keep hope alive!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,Boenher is in a difficult position,but Has&#8217;nt he made enough money by now,so that he should not worry for the future of his Family,,so why can&#8217;t he just do the right thing and side with the American People rather than those Vulture Capitalists,,he could remake his place in History and become a Champion of the people..does he realize this?Rather than being a cog in the wheel of injustice,he could change,,i believe that anyone can change..keep hope alive keep hope alive keep hope alive!</p>
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		<title>By: DHFabian</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-9288</link>
		<dc:creator>DHFabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t help on that one.  My grandparents and parents, as working/middle class people, were solid Roosevelt Dems and Kennedy Dems, supporters of the New Deal AND Great Society programs that played a vital role in taking the US to its height of productivity and wealth (until the 1980s).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t help on that one.  My grandparents and parents, as working/middle class people, were solid Roosevelt Dems and Kennedy Dems, supporters of the New Deal AND Great Society programs that played a vital role in taking the US to its height of productivity and wealth (until the 1980s).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kinne</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-9224</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Kinne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The chief Republican negotiator, John Boehner, is in an untenable position.  If he makes any effort to negotiate or compromise, other than repeating the unacceptable Grover Norquist demands, he will lose support from the billionaire class and their paid lackeys in the tea party, which includes a few dozen Congresspeople.  If he refuses to compromise, the draconian budget cuts will take place, with large cuts in many types of spending, and tax increases for everyone.  Boehner could help the country greatly by agreeing to work with the Democrats, but this could put his career in jeopardy.  We&#039;ll see whether personal ambition or the country ends up being his bigger priority.  Most of the rest, including the imbecile McConnell and the talking heads at Fox, is just noise that has little effect on anyone except the news organizations that are desperate for anything that can be portrayed as newsworthy.  Currently about the only name in news that I pay any attention to is Jon Stewart at Comedy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chief Republican negotiator, John Boehner, is in an untenable position.  If he makes any effort to negotiate or compromise, other than repeating the unacceptable Grover Norquist demands, he will lose support from the billionaire class and their paid lackeys in the tea party, which includes a few dozen Congresspeople.  If he refuses to compromise, the draconian budget cuts will take place, with large cuts in many types of spending, and tax increases for everyone.  Boehner could help the country greatly by agreeing to work with the Democrats, but this could put his career in jeopardy.  We&#8217;ll see whether personal ambition or the country ends up being his bigger priority.  Most of the rest, including the imbecile McConnell and the talking heads at Fox, is just noise that has little effect on anyone except the news organizations that are desperate for anything that can be portrayed as newsworthy.  Currently about the only name in news that I pay any attention to is Jon Stewart at Comedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Elections? We Don’t Need no Stinkin’ Elections &#124; andthisourlife</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-9209</link>
		<dc:creator>Elections? We Don’t Need no Stinkin’ Elections &#124; andthisourlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Richard Eskow wrote yesterday for ourfuture.org: &#8220;The Republican Party has a message for the American people: Meet the new [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: clarence swinney</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-9190</link>
		<dc:creator>clarence swinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$250,000 “up” get tax increase. Opponents ploy the $250,000 number but no one ploys the 4000 Million Income “down”. Do  incomes of 100 million to 4000 million deserve a tax cut or tax increase in hard times??
 Bush Tax Cuts, Payroll Tax Cuts, Sequestred Spending cuts.
A great debate on each. No good solutions. People get hurt
on each. Result of tax cuts was  more debt debt debt. 
Spending cuts mean loss of jobs in federal government. 
Each party is playing talk politics not common sense positive solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$250,000 “up” get tax increase. Opponents ploy the $250,000 number but no one ploys the 4000 Million Income “down”. Do  incomes of 100 million to 4000 million deserve a tax cut or tax increase in hard times??<br />
 Bush Tax Cuts, Payroll Tax Cuts, Sequestred Spending cuts.<br />
A great debate on each. No good solutions. People get hurt<br />
on each. Result of tax cuts was  more debt debt debt.<br />
Spending cuts mean loss of jobs in federal government.<br />
Each party is playing talk politics not common sense positive solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-9173</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please send email like this to your parents and grandparents.  I get so discussed hearing the elderly in my life thinking that the GOP is with them.  They vote in great numbers, and they should know what they are voting for.  I don&#039;t know about the people in your family, but my grandparents pass on every interesting email to all of their friends.  Too often, they consist of some BS about what Obama is doing to America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please send email like this to your parents and grandparents.  I get so discussed hearing the elderly in my life thinking that the GOP is with them.  They vote in great numbers, and they should know what they are voting for.  I don&#8217;t know about the people in your family, but my grandparents pass on every interesting email to all of their friends.  Too often, they consist of some BS about what Obama is doing to America.</p>
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		<title>By: DHFabian</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourfuture.org/20121204/gop-offers-to-throw-the-middle-class-over-the-fiscal-cliff#comment-9159</link>
		<dc:creator>DHFabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill Clinton threw the poor off the cliff, and suffered no political consequences. While known primarily for ending the Great Society programs, he did get a good start in bringing down the New Deal as well, focusing on the disabled, deeply cutting aid and requiring that those who were found  unemployable by reason of significant disability to somehow &quot;find jobs.&quot; As a consequence, the disabled became the fastest-growing group of homeless people (these policies finally reversed when President Obama took office). Didn&#039;t exactly hear an uproar from the progressive community about this, and in spite of how consistently both Clintons have advocated right wing policies, they remain the darlings of the liberal class.  What we&#039;ve seen is that getting rid of social programs is done incrementally. Clinton &quot;reformed&quot; welfare by ending General Assistance, then moving on to end AFDC. Social Security will be dismantled incrementally as well, starting with Social Security Disability. All it takes is the apathy of the general public. Rather than fight back, we adjust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton threw the poor off the cliff, and suffered no political consequences. While known primarily for ending the Great Society programs, he did get a good start in bringing down the New Deal as well, focusing on the disabled, deeply cutting aid and requiring that those who were found  unemployable by reason of significant disability to somehow &#8220;find jobs.&#8221; As a consequence, the disabled became the fastest-growing group of homeless people (these policies finally reversed when President Obama took office). Didn&#8217;t exactly hear an uproar from the progressive community about this, and in spite of how consistently both Clintons have advocated right wing policies, they remain the darlings of the liberal class.  What we&#8217;ve seen is that getting rid of social programs is done incrementally. Clinton &#8220;reformed&#8221; welfare by ending General Assistance, then moving on to end AFDC. Social Security will be dismantled incrementally as well, starting with Social Security Disability. All it takes is the apathy of the general public. Rather than fight back, we adjust.</p>
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